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GuestI plan to buy a transceiver. I am mainly interested in CW operation (because I was a radio operator during the war 🙂 ). I want to ask which band is more suitable for reception, or I would not like to buy a device that would accept on some band without activity. On which band is the most active CW operation and can even very distant stations be heard? I have a degree in electrical engineering and, unfortunately, I became interested in HAM only now and when I have a cottage in the village at my disposal. At first I had planned “zlepit” some 40m or 80m reception because I know there is enough activity there. Unfortunately, I don't have the necessary expensive equipment like osc, gen. Unfortunately, I will have to buy some ready-made receivers in addition to the transceiver. But which band? 🙂 Thanks for the info
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GuestTransceiver = Trasiing a receiver. Ie, ž also receives and transmits, and if it doesn't have a brand, you are wasting money unnecessarily 😉
In the KV Band, the main thing is important, when do you have time to wait?, because some bands are open at night, some during the day. But if you want to listen to remote CW, i.e.. DX stations, I would recommend WARC bands (10, 18,21, 24.5 MHz) , even if traffic there is less frequent than, for example, on 20 meters. But according to years of listening, it's the same with CW . On 3,5 MHz is harder to hear CW (especially during the day), because it is mostly a zone for landlocked countries, but such 14 MHZ (20m) I CW nonstop, as well as on other bands ( s WARC).73 de Juro OM4AJK
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Transceiver = Trasiing a receiver. Ie, ž also receives and transmits, and if it doesn't have a brand, you are wasting money unnecessarily 😉
In the KV Band, the main thing is important, when do you have time to wait?, because some bands are open at night, some during the day. But if you want to listen to remote CW, i.e.. DX stations, I would recommend WARC bands (10, 18,21, 24.5 MHz) , even if traffic there is less frequent than, for example, on 20 meters. But according to years of listening, it's the same with CW . On 3,5 MHz is harder to hear CW (especially during the day), because it is mostly a zone for landlocked countries, but such 14 MHZ (20m) I CW nonstop, as well as on other bands ( s WARC).73 de Juro OM4AJK
Thank you for your response. I was thinking about the transceiver because maybe in the future I would work on my own call sign 🙂 Although I already have 30 so I don't know if people also get their permits late. Anyway, some receiver would be good for me. You can't advise what I should get?
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Guesthttp://www.hamradio.sk/zacinajucim/pov_podm_tab1.htm
http://www.hamradio.sk/
“Ethics of operation”
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If you want to listen now, so try SDR on the Internet in the evening:
http://www.websdr.org/ SDR table
http://62.168.0.92:8095/ SDR in "Czech Republic"
http://websdr.sc-nm.si/ SDR in "Slovenia"
http://home.slepp.ca:8901/ SDR v KanadeAnonymous
GuestThere is one, maybe a stupid question for you: They have handheld CW operation for broadcasting? I just connect the key and go?
OM0AAO (OM0A)
ParticipantMost handheld stations are suitable for FM operation, the more modern ones allow the reception of other modes as well, including CW, but not broadcasting.
However, there are also small devices, e.g.. And we have it over with http://www.rigpix.com/yaesu/ft817nd.htm or kits like TJ2A http://www.youkits.com/
Since telegraph devices can be constructed with several dozen parts, there are several producers of construction companies in the world, i atenuator a kusok drotu: http://www.smallwonderlabs.com/Rockmite.htm
http://www.fix.net/~jparker/wilderness/nc40a.htm
http://www.elecraft.com/Anonymous
GuestSo, I can only work in phone operations with normal handhelds, possibly in packetradio? Nothing more?
OM0AAO (OM0A)
ParticipantYes, so it is.
Technologically, the manufacturer could probably also make a telegraph handheld (something like the Dragon SS-201 http://www.thiecom.de/ae201s.htm), but these devices did not gain much traction.
There are several reasons – due to battery power, the RF power is small, the ergonomics of the control are difficult and the parameters are weak due to the narrowness and economy of the structure. In addition, the antenna would have to be external and connected with a thicker lead, e.g.. coaxial cable.
On CQ.sk you will find a description of Mizuho handheld stations https://cq.sk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=67
I would consider, say, the Elecraft KX1 interesting http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/KX1.htm or K1 http://www.elecraft.com/k1_page.htm.
An overview of commercially produced devices is at http://www.rigpix.com/index.shtml . Among the largest manufacturers of equipment are Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Alinco, Elecraft or Ten-Tec
Anonymous
GuestThen you can receive CW with the handheld? The signals will not be mixed due to the fact that higher selectivity is needed for CW?
OK1FTJ
ParticipantYou're in for it 40 min. was able to read through all the pages from the previous post? Make peace with it, that the handheld is not a suitable device for CW. When receiving CW, you need more than selectivity , but you need to write down amateur shortcuts and Qcodes, so that you know what the connection is all about. Virtually no one broadcasts openly, it would be very impractical when connecting amateurs from different countries. Receivers for amateur bands, whether single or multi-band, can be found on the Internet in hundreds of variants, from the simplest direct amplifiers to complex professional systems. You can even buy interesting building blocks, which will fully satisfy you and at the same time will mostly work with minimal measurement requirements.
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Guest40min? I graduated high school in electrical engineering(notification technique). I was a radio operator during the war. I studied at the university (he didn't graduate) telecommunications madness (a combination of telecommunications tech and economics).
I know the theory. Unfortunately, even the war did not give me much, because the only thing I did there was to sit in front of the receiver where the characters HXVH NVKL were repeated all day long. Sometimes force QTR, QRK and a series of hundreds of characters that had nothing to do with the communication protocol. We answered by phone 🙂 So that's where my interest in CW comes from. I have no idea about technology and operations, therefore, before I send the form to the televsion. urad, of course I want to get used to it a bit and of course learn. I started this topic because I hope that experienced radio amateurs can give me advice. It would help me a lotOK1FTJ
ParticipantThe question is what you want to ask the telecommunications office for. If you just want to listen to CW traffic, you don't need any permission. If you want to send listening QSL listening tickets, then you just formally request the allocation of a student number.
If you also want to broadcast, you will have to pass some level of exams, e.g. and Morse reception and transmission at the required speed and quality. You will find all this in the relevant regulations.
Try to specify a little which area of radio amateur activities you are most interested in and which direction you want to focus more on and you will definitely get most of the information you need. Your original question about only being able to receive CW is too restrictive.Anonymous
GuestDefinitely CW and definitely broadcast on KV (I would like to have some QSL cards). Also broadcasting and receiving via PC. Phone operation is very difficult for me. I don't know how it is in your country, but in our country the laws have recently changed and Morse code tests are no longer done. I can't broadcast, accept only 60. I would very much like to build a simple, high-quality transceiver, but unfortunately I don't have one, gen in citac. Basic instruments only, arachnid,multimeter… 🙂
I did not know that call signs are also assigned to those who only listen.om3cvv
ParticipantHi Janop, everyone here has written something for you, but that is all taken out of context. First, write what city you're from and we'll try to find you someone from the amateurs you could turn to, eventually we will tell you, is there another collective station in your place of residence?, where you would learn other conditions and of course it would help you in further development.
To your questions, without PERMISSION you can only broadcast in the CB band and that's the phone, or a packet (but I do not know, does anyone still work there?).
You need a PERMIT to work in the amateur radio band and echo line !
After our concession. Broadcasting without concession, now I don't know if it's a misdemeanor or a felony, but surely there is a heavy fine for it.
The permit is issued by the Slovak Telecommunications Authority in Bratislava on the basis of tests.Unless you have the opportunity to become a member of the collective, so next year OM3REU is doing summer courses for future radio amateurs, where all the questions for passing the exams are covered.
As a listener, you can apply for a job number of a radio listener without exams..
It is very important that you do not become “internet radio amateur” and if at all possible, join a radio club. That's basically all there is to it.
Anonymous
GuestOM3WKS is about 50m away, but I don't know him personally, just by sight. Maybe I'll contact him. I'll see if I can find the courage 🙂
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