Telegraphy

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    Anonymous
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    I am interested in telegraphy. to protect the radio input from static electricity, that it consists of numerous abbreviations, but which are not mandatory except for a few exceptions. A valid QSO can consist of an exchange of tags and an RST.
    Even I can already recognize some idioms, such as 73 a RST apod.
    If I can capture the peer station's tag and I can send it an RST and capture its RST, so the connection is valid.
    Inverted Vee does not create such deep zeros in free space, what if someone sends me a line like: “Tonight I saw a lonely pretty girl in a red skirt in the forest. Does anyone have such a buffer, to remember this without writing it down, which at a speed of more than 30 not even possible?
    Ie. can telegraphy be operated at all without customary abbreviations?

    I have such an idea, that I would make arranged telegraph connections with someone and we would transmit so slowly, that the other party would try to write down the characters with a marker on paper. This is the way?

    Thanks for the feedback.

    P.S.: I am aware of, that there are different dowry methods, but I don't want to go down this road.

    #14408 Reply
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    Norbert, one mistake you mention is, that it cannot be written at a speed of more than 30 (I assume characters per minute) it's nonsense, at the time when I was doing the exams, the only buffers for recording were human memory and paper. Do not write with a marker, but with an ordinary pencil. Recording can be reliably done until 120 characters without special self-characters. Alternatively, make a note on the PC. In year 1975 we took telegraphy exams at a pace for class C 60 characters and writing was without problems. So let's go practice telegraphy. Otherwise, write with a delay, at least that way, that when you hear the second sign, you write the first character, it would be better too 5 letters behind to write..
    YOU 73 Miro

    #14409 Reply
    Anonymous
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    This helped me tremendously, I meant, that people, those who do CW have a phenomenal memory. So I'm going to try to write and thanks again.

    It goes faster for me with a marker, but when you speak with a pencil, with a pencil.

    #14410 Reply
    Anonymous
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    And one more thing, set the telegraph to the character speed at least 60 characters per minute and a lower real speed can be achieved by extending the spaces. The marker is relatively thick and writing is more tiring than with a soft pencil, Alternatively, a gel pen can also be used, ballpoint is similar to a marker… can be done, but that's not it. That is, if you give the problem to your neighbors with emotion

    #14411 Reply
    IVULIK
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    I wonder how old this expert is. His contributions thus show a max. on 10. Such nonsense as you can't read faster than 30 characters/min without any kind of buffer speaks volumes. What on earth is this person advanced at??? Once it's Norbert, then Norway again, but he writes nonsense all the time.
    Lord OK1IVU

    #14412 Reply
    Anonymous
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    😀 I have an impression, that Norbert wants to write periods and commas …./.. George, OM6JO

    #14413 Reply
    Anonymous
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    I would even allow myself to give a link to one device, with which it is possible to teach cw on VKV, in the FM segment:

    http://prekladatelia.info/mcw/

    I sometimes call cq in BA on the frequency 433.550, so if there are any novice, who is interested in learning cw with me at vkv, that would be nice…..I turn my biquad on him:)

    cw is a club for big boys, but they also live off inheritances, which fall from the table of the rich.[/Can you give me instructions on how to wind that choke?]

    #14414 Reply
    Anonymous
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    ok

    #14415 Reply
    Anonymous
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    On a more serious note:
    I would like to do it with the Czech schola ludus system.
    I sporadically learned typewriting with the Klavaro program, but since I have little time, the results do not appear. With mainstream approaches to Morse code, it would soon turn out similarly.
    I want to do it while driving with a willing sparring partner, who is tolerant and will enjoy my progress. This possibility is here, Nope? If I don't write everything down, this is how it detoxifies, or post again and so on. I don't like drilling, I want to see results right away. We live in a fast time.

    #14416 Reply
    Anonymous
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    Try this : http://www.g4fon.net.
    You can do it yourself and a computer.

    #14417 Reply
    Anonymous
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    @norbertx wrote:

    On a more serious note:
    I would like to do it with the Czech schola ludus system.
    I sporadically learned typewriting with the Klavaro program, but since I have little time, the results do not appear. With mainstream approaches to Morse code, it would soon turn out similarly.
    I want to do it while driving with a willing sparring partner, who is tolerant and will enjoy my progress. This possibility is here, Nope? If I don't write everything down, this is how it detoxifies, or post again and so on. I don't like drilling, I want to see results right away. We live in a fast time.

    .. Well, you really surprised me, NORO- even though we had like a cw qso, so you won't achieve anything in life with such an approach- but that's probably a general problem of young people(honor the exceptions)- immediately see the results-ha ha- without drill and without effort…put everything under their noses,Haha( honor the exceptions) and stroke them even when they can't,Haha…..I don't intend to participate in such a project and that's why I'm ending with you on the frequency 21.1253Mhz cw mode….HOWGH
    Daniel, OM1DS

    #14418 Reply
    Anonymous
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    ok

    #14419 Reply
    Anonymous
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    #14420 Reply
    OM7AC
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    Hi Norbertx. Even if you are “EXPERT”,please try to lift your ass from the chair at the computer and look around for a radio amateur collective,or after a radio amateur,who already has beginner's experience and gained this alongside experienced radio amateurs and learn something there. These attempts of yours for something that has long been invented and used for years,evoke in ours “to the public” something,what I can't name. Igor om7ac with a concession obtained in 1972.

    #14421 Reply
    OM7AC
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    Hi Norbertx. Even if you are “EXPERT”,please try to lift your ass from the chair at the computer and look around for a radio amateur collective,or after a radio amateur,who already has beginner's experience and gained this alongside experienced radio amateurs and learn something there. These attempts of yours for something that has long been invented and used for years,evoke in ours “to the public” something,what I can't name. Igor om7ac with a concession obtained in 1972.

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